PHRF Meeting Minutes 2008

PHRF – Galveston Bay Meeting - LYC

Thursday May 8, 2008

Two appeals were reviewed.  Kokomo a Crealock 44, the base rating was changed to 138.  Figaro a ODD34SM was previously rated incorrectly it had been rated as a Contessa 35.  The committee rated it as a ODD34SM with a base rating of 132. 

It was agreed to postpone two appeals until the next meeting.  Loopy a Hunter 37.6 and Material Girl a Ben 473 will have their appeals heard at the June meeting.  

The owner of a King 40 asked for a ruling on his electric back stay.  The electric back stay is built in that way at the factory and is standard on these boats.  PHRFGB voted to allow this as long as it is not controlled automatically by something like a computer, that is to say manually operated.  

There was more discussion on getting a guest speaker to come to Houston.  There are two people that could come to town and discuss the rating systems, PHRF, IRC, IMS, IOR, OOR, Americap, ORC Club, in great detail.  In addition they will be able to talk about point to point ratings.  If this is what we are going to do we need to pick a date and arrange for someone to come down.  To be continued at the next meeting. 

 Minutes by PHRF-GB Secretary, Larry Blankenhagen  

PHRF – Galveston Bay Meeting - HYC

Thursday April 10, 2008

Numbers on the B-50 application did not make sense.  Several phone calls to the owner failed to make the numbers clear.

 The committee decided to adjust the ratings on Mainbrace and Loopy, Hunter 37.6s.  This was done to bring them more in line with other similar boats.  Loopy is appealing his rating. 

A request to look at the B 473 ratings was made by an owner.  The PHRF Com did look at the B 473 ratings.  We saw some slower ratings in Chesapeake area.  Most felt the boats sailed to their ratings in this area but will look at additionally data.   We agreed our chief handicapper will talk with the Chesapeake people and we'll look at ratings again next mouth. 

 Minutes by PHRF-GB Secretary, Larry Blankenhagen

PHRF – Galveston Bay Meeting - LYC

Thursday March 14, 2008

About 80 percent of all applications for a PHRF certificate are incomplete or incorrect.  The board is doing the best it can with incomplete data.  If the board can not verify data that does not seem correct on the application the owner supplied data will be use.  It should be noted that the owner is responsible for supplying accurate data. 

The Loopy/ Mainbrace/ Hunter 376SD/ Hunter 376DK / Other: This subject continues to be perplexing to the board.  Discussions and homework continue on why these boats and others are so outside of what seems normal.  To be continued at the next meeting. Ratings will stay as they are for now.  All Hunter 376 boats and like boats will be reviewed at fleet review or sooner.  A lowering of the base rating is expected on some boats. 

The board still does not have an email address for Tom Sutton that works.  Tom’s email is wtsutton@pacadvisory.com   Tom is working to fix it.

 Minutes by PHRF-GB Secretary, Larry Blankenhagen

PHRF – Galveston Bay Meeting - HYC

Wednesday February 13, 2008

When rating the Hunter 37.6 Main Brace a difference in ratings was noted on the same type yachts.  It was decided that other ratings are incorrect.  Bill Beatty will notify the yachts how’s rating may change. 

Ratings and an appeal took up most of the meeting. 

Bill Beatty was tasked with reviewing the non-spinnaker factor.  He presented the results of that review with the following recommendation:

·        Continue to use present process and formulas.

·        Verify accuracy of the formulas in data base.

·        Develop a NSF page with processes and formulas, similar to present PHRF-GB rating    process page.

·        Communicate to members the use of our NSF.

·        Monitor other PHRF organization’s use of NSF

Bill’s full review is in printed form and included in a hard copy of the minutes. 

 Minutes by PHRF-GB Secretary, Larry Blankenhagen

PHRF – Galveston Bay Meeting - LYC

Thursday January 10, 2008

Web site upgrades were discussed.  Bob Wright is acting as the web site administrator and informed the board about what is possible.  Bob also asked for input about what we would like.   Further discussions on the web site will occur at the next meeting.  The web site will be a work in progress. 

It was agreed that PHRF-GB will collect race results for all windward leeward races in Galveston Bay this year.  It is hoped that LYC, HYC and GBCA will mail there results to PHRF-GB after each regatta.  This would help us greatly when discussing appeals.  

We postponed discussing A-kite penalties until Jim Tichenor is in attendance.  Jim has been doing research on the subject and he will have more info for the board at the next meeting.

Bob Wright presented an overview of how the non-spinnaker penalty was created.  No glaring problems were noted, but fine tuning may be needed.  Discussions will be continued at the next meeting.

Next meeting changed to Wednesday, February 13.  Below are the rest of the 2008 meeting dates:

Feb 13     HYC                  Appeal Mtg

Mar 13     LYC

Apr 10      HYC

May 8      LYC 

June 12    HYC

July    10  LYC

Aug 14     HYC

Sept 11    LYC

Oct 9       HYC

Nov 13     LYC

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